[IllFamedSkywalker]

Hey whats up guys! I own a 04 gli 1.8t and I was looking to get more HP out of it. I was looking for tips on what brands/steps I should take so I don't mess my car up. I was also looking for a bigger turbo for my car but would I have to upgrade anything else before I take such a big step?

 

[Project jetta]

How much power are you looking for? What i would do is get a intake non oiled AEM dryflow filter remove factory box, forge dv from ECSTuning.com, i like the Silverline catback Exhaust also from ECSTuning, downpipe not sure of brand name for the downpipe, front mount intercooler from eurojet.com i believe, and then your ready for your chip, you can go with unitronic Tune i heard there great and awsome customer service i have talked to them, or APR tuning here are their website links,
http://www.goapr.com/products/ecu_upgrade_golf18t.html http://www.unitronic-chipped.com/ i hope that gave you a good idea.

 

[IllFamedSkywalker]

Thank you very much! Very helpful reply!

 

[iSick]

Hey bro, I was on the same boat as you. I wanted more power [HP’s] for my GLI [2005]and didn’t know what would be safe and what could damage my car. I consult my VW tech on everything butsometimes I feel that he is really conservative and so I decided to do a lot ofresearch. So out of all the research,here is what I think would be healthy for your car.



This is my personal opinion and of course , alot of members have their own opinions and suggestions, so before acting out onanything, do your research and purchase wisely. I have been waiting on a delivery from UPS allday and it finally came in @ 7:51 p.m. [pacific]. Anyway, hope this is helpful and this is whatI’ve done or doing [appointment tomorrow morning] to my car:



1. Neuspeed P Flo [Short Ram Intake] *SRI

2. Nesupeed P Chip [they offer a conservative buteffective tune for our GLI. According tothe sales rep, the tune used matches the stock GLI in Germany. This definitely madea difference, no joke.

3. Forge TIP [Turbo Inlet Pipe] – GETTING INSTALLEDTOMORROW [can give you my reviews if like]

4. Audi TT DV [Diverter Valve] – GETTING INSTALLEDTOMORROW [A lot of members said that itwas must to switch out your DV when increasing boost. Many users recommend Forge [007] or APR’s DVbut after contacting Neuspeed, they did not speak too highly about using thosevendors. This DV handles 225hp and wellinstead of going with Forge or APR, I went with this one.]

5. Boost Gauge – GETTING INSTALLED TOMORROW [Need to know what you’re boosting after allthese mods, even helps monitor your stock boost]



Note: ifyou go to ECStuning.com and enter your make/model/engine you might still beable to get the DV at their sale price. I ended up buying for $38.40.



Just to reiterate, I am no pro and don’t claimto be, just like you, want to be careful with what I put in my car. Good luck to you and off to drop my caroff.

 

[IllFamedSkywalker]

Another great comment, I will definitely do my research! If you could do a review of you Forge TIP that would be great!

I have a cool air intake that runs down along side the engine of my car. I feel like if I get a intercooler, piping and rerouting the hoses would be a lot harder than if I had a stubby intake. Then again I think I'm getting way more air and it gives me max hp for an intake.

 

[Noob4Life]

God neuspeed sounds like a bunch of &[email protected]!ing idiots. I will never by products from them after some of the things I've heard. Do they not speak very well of any product not sold on their site or something?

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[iSick]

Not sure Noob but after our discussion on DV's , I called and again they did not recommend purchasing aftermarket DVs.

They put it to me like this, if I would have shown up to get tuned with an aftermarket DV, they would have not tuned my car.

In anycase, I decided to go with the Audi TT DV which should help manage that extra boost.

Neuspeed has been in the industry since I can remember...ever since I dreamed of owning a VW. To be in the business for as long as they have should say something.

Noob I appreciate your advice, have read several threads where you shared your knowledge (HID post was funny) so please dont take what I say the wrong way.

I just dont wanna be like most GLIs on YouTube with Check Engine Lights on, lol.

You should call Neuspeed to hear what they have to say about aftermarket DV's...

Anyway...pretty stoked about getting that TIP installed.


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[IllFamedSkywalker]

When I bought my gli it came with a forge dv and it works perfectly fine for me. Cant you chip your car so it would eliminate the check engine light? Ive just heard this from a guy that owns a exhaust shop, so I'm not sure if its accurate.

 

[Noob4Life]

Not sure Noob but after our discussion on DV's , I called and again they did not recommend purchasing aftermarket DVs.

They put it to me like this, if I would have shown up to get tuned with an aftermarket DV, they would have not tuned my car.

In anycase, I decided to go with the Audi TT DV which should help manage that extra boost.

Neuspeed has been in the industry since I can remember...ever since I dreamed of owning a VW. To be in the business for as long as they have should say something.

Noob I appreciate your advice, have read several threads where you shared your knowledge (HID post was funny) so please dont take what I say the wrong way.

I just dont wanna be like most GLIs on YouTube with Check Engine Lights on, lol.

You should call Neuspeed to hear what they have to say about aftermarket DV's...

Anyway...pretty stoked about getting that TIP installed.


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No man I can hold a perfectly calm "creative discussion" lol, the only reason most modded jettas have CELs is from the aftermarket cat their running, either no cat or a hi flow cat without the O2 sensor spacer. The forge 007 is probably the most used DV on the market and I've never heard a bad thing about it. It does have to be adjusted depending in the boost you're running though, it comes with 3 different springs and 3 shims that you have to work with until you hold proper boost. That's probably why Neuspeed wont tune you car if you have one because it requires more than just plugging the car in and sending it on its way. I'm not knocking the Audi TT valve, I have one on my car, it works great and it was a quarter of the price. What I'm knocking is Neuspeeds tendancy to keep feeding you false info. Also it may be because Neuspeed is in California and they're trying to keep your car 100% Carb legal. Technically speaking if you have an aftermarket DV it could cause you to fail smog, the only reason being that California tells their smog technicians that any and I do mean ANY sort of engine modification that isn't OEM or doesn't have a Carb number needs to be failed do to the car being modified. I could have been failed for having the 034 motorsports sillicone PCV hose kit, because its not OEM.

All I'm really trying to say is don't rely on Neuspeeds advice. If I were you I'd even go with another tune. Apr, Unitronics, Gonzo all make great power while keeping stock drivability. If you're gonna out the money out for a tune, why only tune it to the European factory spec? You might as well go big or go home right? I have the Gonzo tune and love it, I beat myself over the head for not getting tuned sooner.

But in the end its your car and do what makes you happy, I'm just giving my $0.02.
/rant

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[pow3r hour]

I didnt read all of noobs post but I have to agree. The apr dv is the best design on the market and took out many of the flaws the stock dv's have. Even the TT dv has the same crappy piston design that gets stuck and o rings that stick. Good quality materials and a company that uses a diaphram based dv is the only way to go for a dv that lasts for the long run.

As for smog, PA has some of the worst smog laws and my audi passes no problem beening chipped and having the apr r1 dv.

 

[clowncar25]

Literally any questions you guys have on boost, parts for boost or anything like that, I can answer...

In regards to Neuspeed saying they wont tune your car if you have an aftermarket DV, thats just dumb. I ran a Stratmosphere DV (Forge also makes a great one) on my 1.8T with just an intake and it was perfectly fine. It's never a bad idea to upgrade anything, ya know? That way, if you want to go for software later, you have the aftermarket DV that can handle it, whereas the stock one can barely handle it and companies suggest you get an aftermarket one anyways at Stage 1+.

That being said, the best option for getting more horsepower from a 1.8T is software. It turns up the boost, optimizes the Air/Fuel Ratio and turns your car into a brand new beast. You dont have to have any mods to run software BUT obviously things like a Cold Air Intake, exhaust, and diverter valve really add to the software and allow the car to breathe better and move air through the system easier.

There are lots of companies out there who make software for the 1.8T but Neuspeed is NOT one of the well known ones. Brands like us (C2Motorsports), APR, GIAC, and Revo have put lots of time into research and development for this platform and have made a great product that shows significant gains for a great price.

Obviously I'm going to suggest C2 because we always love to help BUT take a look around, do some research and make an informed decision!

 

[Noob4Life]

I didnt read all of noobs post but I have to agree. The apr dv is the best design on the market and took out many of the flaws the stock dv's have. Even the TT dv has the same crappy piston design that gets stuck and o rings that stick. Good quality materials and a company that uses a diaphram based dv is the only way to go for a dv that lasts for the long run.

As for smog, PA has some of the worst smog laws and my audi passes no problem beening chipped and having the apr r1 dv.

I was under the impression that the TT valve was a stronger diaprahm design?

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[Noob4Life]

When I bought my gli it came with a forge dv and it works perfectly fine for me. Cant you chip your car so it would eliminate the check engine light? Ive just heard this from a guy that owns a exhaust shop, so I'm not sure if its accurate.

If you get your car tuned you can have them hide the rear o2 sensor so to speak, BUT you'll still fail smog. It will keep your car from throwing a CEL though.

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[pow3r hour]

I was under the impression that the TT valve was a stronger diaprahm design?

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I just looked, and seems there was a revised version made, and the new ones are a diaphrahm based. Either way its still a plastic housing and cheaper quality materials that cant handle the continous temp changes of the engine warming up and cooling down. Over time it will still fail, but is an upgrade from stock. Id still much rather man up and buy a better quality one.

 

[groundupjetta]

Yea what everybody said, get a real tune cause that neuspeed tune wont cut there

and get a quality aftermarket dv, it handles higher levels of boost way better than any oem can do and even helps on spool up

 

[iSick]

Yea what everybody said, get a real tune cause that neuspeed tune wont cut there

and get a quality aftermarket dv, it handles higher levels of boost way better than any oem can do and even helps on spool up

Wont cut it where?


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[clowncar25]

Wont cut it where?

Neuspeed is definitely not known for their 1.8T tunes... see my post above.

 

[iSick]

Neuspeed is definitely not known for their 1.8T tunes... see my post above.

I read your post and appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts. Before tuning, I did a lot of reading and read up on the companies referenced in your post. If I wanted to go with a more aggressive tune, I would have gone with another company. I tuned my car for just a little more get-up on the highway, not to actually race. I am very comfortable with my car and where it is right now [performance wise] and really enjoy crusin' like my car use to when just stock.

If I would have gone with a more aggressive tune, I most likely would have gone with an aftermarket DV because it only makes sense.

I look at it like this, if I wanted to lower my car, do I have to lower it to the ground because I can? Or can I go with a subtle drop that is comfortable and nice looking?

That being said, just because GLI's support more boost does not mean you have to be push it to the limit, or does it?

At the end of the day, decision comes down to the owner of the car and what they are comfortable with, i am more than pleased with my cars performance and eager to get the call to pick up my car today.

Hope everyone has a nice day!

 

[IllFamedSkywalker]

Should I chip my car before I get a down pipe?

 

[mikemardis]

I wouldn't. You can yes, depending on the chip your getting most stage 2 tunes require turbo back for safe operation. I am going unitronic stage 2 soon and I will have my turbo back installed by then. As I said though if you are going stage one or even 1+ you should be fine if you tune first.